Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru
The National Assembly for Wales

 

 

Y Pwyllgor Cyfrifon Cyhoeddus
The Public Accounts Committee

 

 

 

Dydd Mawrth, 20 Medi 2011
Tuesday, 20 September 2011

 

 

Cynnwys
Contents

 

3......... Ymddiheuriadau a Dirprwyon
Apologies and Substitutions

 

4......... Cynnig Gweithdrefnol
Procedural Motion

 

4......... Materion sy’n ymwneud â Llywodraethu ac Atebolrwydd Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Issues of Governance and Accountability of the Auditor General for Wales

 

 

 

 

Cofnodir y trafodion hyn yn yr iaith y llefarwyd hwy ynddi yn y pwyllgor. Yn ogystal, cynhwysir cyfieithiad Saesneg o gyfraniadau yn y Gymraeg. Mae hon yn fersiwn ddrafft o’r cofnod. Cyhoeddir fersiwn derfynol ymhen pum diwrnod gwaith.

 

These proceedings are reported in the language in which they were spoken in the committee. In addition, an English translation of Welsh speeches is included. This is a draft version of the record. The final version will be published within five working days.

 

 

Aelodau’r pwyllgor yn bresennol
Committee members in attendance

 

 

Mohammad Asghar

Ceidwadwyr Cymreig
Welsh Conservatives

 

Mike Hedges

Llafur
Labour

 

Darren Millar

Ceidwadwyr Cymreig (Cadeirydd y Pwyllgor)
Welsh Conservatives (Committee Chair)

 

Julie Morgan

Llafur
Labour

 

Gwyn R. Price

Llafur
Labour

 

Jenny Rathbone

Llafur
Labour

 

Aled Roberts

Democratiaid Rhyddfrydol Cymru

Welsh Liberal Democrats

 

Leanne Wood

Plaid Cymru
The Party of Wales

 

 

Eraill yn bresennol
Others in attendance

 

 

Anthony Barrett

Swyddfa Archwilio Cymru

Wales Audit Office

 

Gillian Body

Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cynorthwyol—Archwilio Perfformiad

Assistant Auditor General—Performance Audit

 

Huw Vaughan Thomas

Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru

Auditor General for Wales

 

 

Swyddogion Cynulliad Cenedlaethol Cymru yn bresennol
National Assembly for Wales officials in attendance

 

 

Dan Collier

Dirprwy Glerc
Deputy Clerk

 

Joanest Jackson

Uwch-gynghorydd Cyfreithiol

Senior Legal Adviser

 

Bethan Webber

Clerc
Clerk

 

 

 

Dechreuodd y cyfarfod am 8.59 a.m.
The meeting began at 8.59 a.m.

 

 

Ymddiheuriadau a Dirprwyon
Apologies and Substitutions

 

 

Darren Millar: Good morning, and welcome to the first meeting of the Public Accounts Committee in the new Assembly term.

 

 

You are welcome to speak in Welsh and English according to preference. Headsets are available for members of the public to hear the translation—the headsets can also be used to amplify the sound by those who are hard of hearing. I ask everybody to switch off their mobile phones, BlackBerrys and pagers, because these can interfere with the broadcasting equipment. In an emergency, if the fire alarms do go off, the ushers will instruct everybody as to what they must do and, if necessary, direct them to the nearest appropriate exit.

 

 

I see that we have a full house, so there are no apologies and substitutions to note.

 

 

Cynnig Gweithdrefnol
Procedural Motion

 

 

Darren Millar: I move that

 

 

the committee resolves to exclude the public from the remainder of the meeting in accordance with Standing Order No. 17.42(ix).

 

 

I see that there are no objections.

 

 

Derbyniwyd y cynnig.
Motion agreed.

 

 

Daeth rhan gyhoeddus y cyfarfod i ben am 9 a.m.
The public part of the meeting ended at 9 a.m.

 

 

Ailymgynullodd y pwyllgor yn gyhoeddus am 10.38 a.m.

The committee reconvened in public at 10.38 a.m.

 

 

Materion sy’n ymwneud â Llywodraethu ac Atebolrwydd Archwilydd Cyffredinol Cymru
Issues of Governance and Accountability of the Auditor General for Wales

 

 

Darren Millar: The purpose of this item is to establish a sub-committee to consider the issues of governance and accountability of the Auditor General for Wales. Having discussed the matter, if Members are content, we will defer this item until a future date. Are you content? I see that you are. That brings the meeting to an end.

 

 

Daeth y cyfarfod i ben am 10.38 a.m.
The meeting ended at 10.38 a.m.